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Renaults are much … Renaults are much more reliable since 2004 (Megane and Laguna), whereas Clio III and Modus are reliable since the beginning (except a few glitches on the back axle assembly for the earlier versions of the Modus).
The building time … The building time and the quality are not directly linked ! It depends of the capacity of the factory, of the available parts …
I would choose the C4 for its design and its attractive technology / I like the clio’s design too but the C4 is more attracting .. more dynamic .. more sportive !
I’m discussing this with my mother as we are going to buy it together. But she is afraid and therefore wants Clio instead.
On the other hand, if we order C4 now, we can have it in 2-3 weeks whereas if we order Clio, it will arrive in January. That’s quite long period of time. But it could also mean that it’s well built.
Yes the long run … Yes the long run tests are recent (308, C5) ! I don’t know if the C4 was tested in this way… But for me (I have driven a C4 but not owned it), you will be satisfied ! And there is the restyled C4 !
I think the restyled one is a safe placement =) As it is a new version they must have considered all the previous problems of the old C4 !
The thing is that … The thing is that I’m probably going to buy C4 tomorrow and heard it had some problems. Not sure. As for Peugeot, I’ve read magazines where they tested 308 and 207 in a long run without single breakdown. But they’re expensive too. Citroen C4 is based on Peugeot 307 which was just as bad as Megane. So I’m unsure.
And the after sales … And the after sales service is improving too ! You’are followed by the sales service during at least 100.000 km depending on what contract you have.
I will search for … I will search for the Adac review of the Clio ^^ It could be intersting !
And to answer youre question, I don’t know if i’am well positionned =) Because I have work for 1 year for PSA (Peugeot & Citroën).
The C4 is my favorite french car with the new C5. And the Citroen are reliable ! Before the model is put on sale, they test it on very longue distance to find possible problems! PSA is inspired by the german model, and the C4 and others Psa’s model are now reliable !
I know some owners … I know some owners of Meganes and Lagunas whose wheels had incorrect possitions up to 5-6 milimiters. I mean how can this happen in today’s age of computerized production?
But…things may be getting better for Renault. The new Clio is, according to ADAC, more reliable than VW Polo or Toyota Yaris, BUT let’s wait few years and see. Peugeot also improved slightly on 207 and maybe 308 models. But Citroen? I want to buy Citroen C4 but I heard it has a lot of problems. What do you think of it?
Personally I will … Personally I will never Buy a Renault =) But we can’t deny that their design are cool. But Renault is not the only one to fall down …
How many of you … How many of you guys watching this vid still have faith in Renault? I mean there was some kind of experiment to reduce production costs in French automobile industry from 2000 to 2007 and especially Lagunas and Meganes, they were just unbelievably breaking down every minute, those weren’t even cars. They were like OH MY GOD. They only brought pain and sadness to their owners. Renault has lost lots of its customers.
I prefer the … I prefer the Scirocco !!! The megan is not enough aggressive for me … My video of the VolksWagen stand is coming … the upload speed is to looooong …
MDR ! Merci ^^ mes … MDR ! Merci ^^ mes vidéos sont là pour montrer la plupart des stands ! Je continue de vider mes SD et de finir mes montages et vous pourrez tout voir ici même !
Quand j’ai vu … Quand j’ai vu ondelios j’ai hésité entre fusion d’un requin et d’un aspirateur … Ca force le respect pour le travail mais ca en choquera plus d’un !
Je suis d’accord … Je suis d’accord avec la laguna coupé ^^ très belle, La trophy est magnifique … aggressive à souhait ! Parcontre je prefére la mégane coupé à la berline … Le coupé à plus de caractére
ça reste subjectif … ça reste subjectif je sais, mais la Laguna Coupé me plait bcp, la Megane 3 Trophy aussi (quelle gueule !), la Megane telle qu’on la verra dans qq semaines me plait mais avec un peu de circonspection, le coupé quant à lui me déçoit (peut-être est-ce l’angle de vue ?)
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Yes, Clio is very …
Yes, Clio is very good car.
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Renaults are much …
Renaults are much more reliable since 2004 (Megane and Laguna), whereas Clio III and Modus are reliable since the beginning (except a few glitches on the back axle assembly for the earlier versions of the Modus).
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
The building time …
The building time and the quality are not directly linked ! It depends of the capacity of the factory, of the available parts …
I would choose the C4 for its design and its attractive technology / I like the clio’s design too but the C4 is more attracting .. more dynamic .. more sportive !
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
I hope so.
I’m …
I hope so.
I’m discussing this with my mother as we are going to buy it together. But she is afraid and therefore wants Clio instead.
On the other hand, if we order C4 now, we can have it in 2-3 weeks whereas if we order Clio, it will arrive in January. That’s quite long period of time. But it could also mean that it’s well built.
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Yes the long run …
Yes the long run tests are recent (308, C5) ! I don’t know if the C4 was tested in this way… But for me (I have driven a C4 but not owned it), you will be satisfied ! And there is the restyled C4 !
I think the restyled one is a safe placement =) As it is a new version they must have considered all the previous problems of the old C4 !
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
The thing is that …
The thing is that I’m probably going to buy C4 tomorrow and heard it had some problems. Not sure. As for Peugeot, I’ve read magazines where they tested 308 and 207 in a long run without single breakdown. But they’re expensive too. Citroen C4 is based on Peugeot 307 which was just as bad as Megane. So I’m unsure.
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
And the after sales …
And the after sales service is improving too ! You’are followed by the sales service during at least 100.000 km depending on what contract you have.
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
I will search for …
I will search for the Adac review of the Clio ^^ It could be intersting !
And to answer youre question, I don’t know if i’am well positionned =) Because I have work for 1 year for PSA (Peugeot & Citroën).
The C4 is my favorite french car with the new C5. And the Citroen are reliable ! Before the model is put on sale, they test it on very longue distance to find possible problems! PSA is inspired by the german model, and the C4 and others Psa’s model are now reliable !
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
I know some owners …
I know some owners of Meganes and Lagunas whose wheels had incorrect possitions up to 5-6 milimiters. I mean how can this happen in today’s age of computerized production?
But…things may be getting better for Renault. The new Clio is, according to ADAC, more reliable than VW Polo or Toyota Yaris, BUT let’s wait few years and see. Peugeot also improved slightly on 207 and maybe 308 models. But Citroen? I want to buy Citroen C4 but I heard it has a lot of problems. What do you think of it?
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Personally I will …
Personally I will never Buy a Renault =) But we can’t deny that their design are cool. But Renault is not the only one to fall down …
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
How many of you …
How many of you guys watching this vid still have faith in Renault? I mean there was some kind of experiment to reduce production costs in French automobile industry from 2000 to 2007 and especially Lagunas and Meganes, they were just unbelievably breaking down every minute, those weren’t even cars. They were like OH MY GOD. They only brought pain and sadness to their owners. Renault has lost lots of its customers.
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Cant wait for the …
Cant wait for the VW stand clip…
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
I prefer the …
I prefer the Scirocco !!! The megan is not enough aggressive for me … My video of the VolksWagen stand is coming … the upload speed is to looooong …
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Not as good looking …
Not as good looking as the Scirocco but good for being a Renault.
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
MDR ! Merci ^^ mes …
MDR ! Merci ^^ mes vidéos sont là pour montrer la plupart des stands ! Je continue de vider mes SD et de finir mes montages et vous pourrez tout voir ici même !
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
quoiqu’il en soit …
quoiqu’il en soit video de très bonne qualité, merci… cette année je n’y vais pas
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Quand j’ai vu …
Quand j’ai vu ondelios j’ai hésité entre fusion d’un requin et d’un aspirateur … Ca force le respect pour le travail mais ca en choquera plus d’un !
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Je suis d’accord …
Je suis d’accord avec la laguna coupé ^^ très belle, La trophy est magnifique … aggressive à souhait ! Parcontre je prefére la mégane coupé à la berline … Le coupé à plus de caractére
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
le concept car …
le concept car Ondelios me fait osciller entre fascination et degoût (l’arrière de babouin n’est pas agréable)
concernant la F1, la nvelle et révolutionnaire soufflerie numérique devrait la replacer parmi les top teams 2009 !
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
ça reste subjectif …
ça reste subjectif je sais, mais la Laguna Coupé me plait bcp, la Megane 3 Trophy aussi (quelle gueule !), la Megane telle qu’on la verra dans qq semaines me plait mais avec un peu de circonspection, le coupé quant à lui me déçoit (peut-être est-ce l’angle de vue ?)
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
December 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Amazing stand
Amazing stand